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From: Donni
Date: 14 Nov 2000
Time: 19:35:29
Remote Name: cache01-e3b.syd.optusnet.com.au
> One quick question, how important is calming the mind to astral projection.
> What technique worked best for you? Can I astral project without calming the mind? Thanks again. Really thanks. > > Anon
Hi Anon,
First of all, everything I suggest, think about it, and if it makes sense,then use it, ok! I don't mind answering questions. I have never consciously OBE'ed, I know Robert Bruce's views really well, and they co-incide with other things I have learnt or read.
With astral projection, it is really important to be able to totally still the mind. When separation phenomena happen, it is to easy for your mind to jump in and say... this is wierd, or wow, or whatever... and bust the whole thing up (in a nutshell.) Also, you need to be able to get a good connection with your astral shadow, so you not only have greater control or choice in what you do out-of-body, but can remember it later.
The goal is three minutes of an 'empty' mind. If you mind isn't calm, it will get too distracted by other things, and you will not achieve your goal of astral projection. It is a vital part of it all. (As is energy body development, and nrg-storage - NEW)
What works for me is getting physicaly relaxed first, then I use New Energy Ways to get a feel of my energy body (good for building the nrg body of your 'double') , then begin calming my mind. At times I have used counting, or I focus on something to keep the chatter out of my brain. It helps to know the conscious mind always likes to butt in. The u can deal with it.
I suggest you look through Robert's site because he has other ideas as well. The URL is on the contents page for this NEW section.
Good question! Donni
PS I FORGOT TO SAY A BIG THANKYOU TO ELON FOR PUTTING UP THIS MESSAGE BOARD, AND TO CHRISTEL FOR ENCOURAGING ME!!!!!!
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From: rakisn
Date: 12 Apr 2004
Time: 05:04:43
Remote Name: 211.29.136.11
I am new with this Donni, I know that there is something is there, I feel it sometimes but how do you get started and how do you take it to higher levels at will? NR The New Energy Ways (NEW) system presented here is aimed at developing your energy body, becoming familar with how it feels, building it's strength, to make OBE easier. It is a very effective system. It makes sense, to me, that when you OBE u r in ur astral body - so get used to how it feels, build it up... After this, there are some very good ideas for OBE, like the ROPE technique, for pulling yourself out. There are links on the mian NEW page for this stuff - Robert's website "The Astral Pulse." One of the biggest challenges with OBE is remembering it - this is where meditation helps big time. Learn to still your mind, focus, not be distracted - it all contributes. Ask any questions, that is what this board is for! Thanks for posting. Do try NEW and let us know how it goes - what you felt, and stuff. It doesn't take long to do. Donni